Oldtent Archives 2010

Possibility? I guess so…maybe the moon (down deep) is made out of blue cheese. Anything may be possible, depending on your smoke of choice. Probable NO.

Anyone suggesting a deep gold crash in here… is really suggesting an Intermediate Trend change. We are not even close to that.  $1200 dead ahead and then say goodbye to $1300 a bit later.

People are too concerned with seasonalities. Last year we hit a low on July 8th and the up and away we went. Still, analyst after analyst and pundit after pundit told us that the Final smashing low was yet to come sometime in August.  Early August came and went…then we were told the low would be late Aug into mid Sep.  But, the low was already in on July 8th..go back and look..I know, because I happened to call that low, on that very day, on this board and then Every cycle low, to the day, posted on this board since then.

Last 2 tops, I have been like ice. Tops I usually get out too early. The last 2 ST tops still have me still baffled. Figured that they would go higher for a few days more or even a week. Some of you folks are going to be so concerned with a gold crash that you will miss out on THIS great climbing rise.

Remember, just a few weeks ago? Nearly all the Pundits said $Dollar to continue to climb..bad for gold. But, a look at the charts said the HUI bottom was in on Dec 17th. (Check out my post to Kentucky that day..bottom in) My message….Ride This Wave!

poor Karl D. must really be snorting through both his nostrils ( walrus comes to mind) now as Iceland voted down to repay the “greedy”  GB and Dutch Investors and also won’t conform to the IMF’s trojan horse.

Well - it’s just one of the cornerstones bringing down this global fraudulent monetary system based on future promises on the back of its taxpayers, which now has become illusional and therefor on the verge of extinction.

Alea iacta est - we’ve crossed the Rubicon, burned the bridges -  and will be on our very own. Government, state, community will only be available for themselves - so it may be the last chance to rebuild your own community in your neighborhood and share your abilities, products, produce, services and compassion.

Have a great 2010 all and don’t lose yourself in discussions about Zionis’m, as in my book it was really only started in essence by Theodor Herzl and had nothing to do with NWO - only a place for jews to survive future progroms on their own soil and defense will and capability; Both have proven to have become quite formidable, though still the dirty wars go on and on and on.

Meantime, PM’s are showing the way - though I’m a bit reluctant as the mining shares are still lagging.

Best frr

PS: GB, Israeli - don’t take it personally - as a Catholic I also can’t come to terms with the BIBLE - is OT or NT - being a historical documentation, nor is the Thora, the Koran or any other old Mystery a´la Dan Brown’s lost Symbol; BTW, a book I’ve could done without reading it - shallow, inconsequential and utterly banal.

From The Wall Street Examiner:

Month to date tax receipts are now in for the entire month of December. They’re down 7.7% from December 2008, which is exactly the same rate of decline as November’s. We know that the TBAC and Treasury officials were not anticipating that in their debt sales forecast for the first quarter. They had assumed that a recovery was taking root and would continue to do so.

But I thought that we were in the midst of a strong economic recovery?  So say all the pundits, all the Tout TV folks, everyone…

So how come I can’t find it in the sales tax receipts of the states, and I also can’t find it in the Federal tax receipts?

Doesn’t recovery mean more spending, some hiring, or at least people getting more hours even if they don’t have new jobs?

If this is all happening, as we’re being told incessantly on ToutTV, shouldn’t tax receipts be going up?

Remember, last December was pretty much the bottom, or so the pundits have told us.  We keep hearing that sales are improving, durable goods are improving, employers aren’t firing any more (and indeed many people are looking for a positive employment number for December and a positive revision to +ve for November) - and yet none of that makes any sense - especially employment turning to an actual positive number - if Treasury tax receipts are actually down on a y/o/y basis from last December.

http://market-ticker.org/

http://www.internationaljewishconspiracy.com/articles/ijc_031208_lizard.html

As you may know, and as we suggested the other day, the ADP report, based on payroll data from American business, showed a loss of 84,000 jobs in December, versus expectations of a loss of only 75,000 jobs.

We also suggested that this Friday’s US Non-Farm Payroll Report will be a positive surprise, at least 10,000 or so jobs to the good. Here are the details.

The Imaginary Jobs component, also known as the Bureau of Labor Statistics Birth-Death Model, will contribute approximately 72,000 jobs allegedly created by small businesses with less credible evidence than a Bigfoot or an Elvis sighting.

Not that they are always positive. Each January there is an enormous job loss shown here, in the neighborhood of about 350,000 jobs. The reason they do this is because the seasonal adjustment factor is so huge in January that this imaginary jobs number does not matter, since it is subtracted (and added) from the numbers prior to the seasonal adjustment.

We can expect this model to continue to show positive annual jobs growth until the End of Days, and perhaps longer than that if there is fireproof paper in the afterlife.

The ‘headline jobs number’ which is the Seasonally Adjusted Number will be a positive 58,000 jobs, and provide much joy and exultation in Washington and on Wall Street. Pundits like Paul Krugman will caution that the economy is still fragile and a second stimulus bill will be required to insure these positive gains.

What is the basis for these projected numbers? The same basis used by the BLS - nothing. At least nothing connected with the real world. These are the numbers that bureaucrats might mindlessly crank out in response to the desire of their bosses for certain targets, a phenomenon well understood by most corporate financial staffs.

We drew the trendline on that chart earlier this year, assuming that the government would wish to show a steady job increase with a positive number by December, or at least January. So far we have not been disappointed, although there have been quite a few revisions along the way.

There will also be revisions this time again, with some jobs added and borrowed from prior months to help make this latest number seem believable.

So, let’s see how it really turns out. Am I being too cynical? I used to spend many hours estimating these numbers and potential targets, but this month I decided to go with the trends. Not trends in job growth, but trends in the general corruption of nearly all financial and economic data in the US, from the government, the banks, and the kleptocracy.

Perhaps the numbers will be realistic and credible this time, and I can be pleasantly surprised.

And perhaps the Obama Administration will begin to deliver the promised, genuine financial reforms.

Posted by Jesse at 12:25 PM      http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

January 6, 2010 — They call it “the poor man’s gold.” But don’t turn your nose up at silver. The dollar was originally defined in terms of silver. When precious metals are on the rise (as now), silver tends to be seen as a monetary metal. When times are bad, silver is seen as an industrial metal. Silver has a huge number of industrial uses, silver is the best conductor of electricity. Unlike gold, silver is actually used (and used up) in industry. Thus, a large amount of silver is lost every year. In contrast, 85% of all the gold ever mined in all history is still around; it’s in your teeth or in your sweeties’ bracelet or in that ancient Egyptian ring that you see in your local museum.

Historically, when silver gets going, it tends to make huge percentage moves. I think you can see that from the long-term chart below. For instance, back in November 2008, silver was selling for 8.65 an ounce. Today an ounce of silver is selling for 18.10 an ounce, more than double.

Silver is now climbing back from a drastic correction, as you can see via the chart below. In December silver hit a high of over 19 dollars an ounce. Back in 1980 (and I remember this well) silver climbed wildly (limit up day after day), and it hit $50 dollars an ounce around January of 1980.

Silver is now in a erratic bull market. How high it may go I don’t know, but I would not be shocked to see silver ultimately climb above its 1980 price of $50 bucks an ounce. Historically, once ounce of gold will buy around 15 ounces of silver. Today an ounce of gold will buy 62 ounces of silver. Silver compared with gold is dirt-cheap today.

How to invest in silver? I like the 100 ounce bars if you can find them (they weigh about 8.5 pounds each). Or buy the 10 ounce bars. Or you can buy the exchange traded fund SLV which sold for 17.77 today.

Yesterday, both gold and platinum closed at new highs for the move. Silver is lagging behind, but when silver finally catches up, it may be a stunner. Over the last year the price of silver doubled; gold didn’t perform that well.

Below I show a point&figure chart of silver. The white metal is now in a well-established rising trend. The upside target is the 21 box. If silver hits the 22 box, that will light the fuse. If silver hits the 22 box, I will view the whole structure that you see on this chart as one huge base.

To put it briefly, I like silver. Gold has one advantage over silver, every central bank owns some gold, and most want more.

So far I’m only through the first day’s class.  It’s a wonderful audio history:

Crash Course In Jewish History

*GB

Fed + NWO =

Anyone care to speak to the topic of possible relation between the Federal Reserve and NWO?  LOL

“You and I know very well that (David Icke) means something other than zionist in this context.”

I’ve never read anything by David Icke about Zionism, so between the two of us, only you ‘know‘ about the above.  In general I make a point to stay away from sites known for inflaming (and I stay away from Icke for the reasons Ipso stated at 18:08).  Not that I shy away from controversy just because I or someone else is uncomfortable with it.  My posting of the Salbuchi videos was innocent, without agenda.  The topic has since brought people out of the woodwork to go on the offensive about something they imagined.

As far as separating political Zionism and religion, it’s easy, if you want to do it.  Or it’s not easy or even possible if you don’t want to.  As to where the idea of Zionism came from, regardless of whether or not it has anything to do with NWO, is clear.  Why not consider the possibility that politicos saw the ‘perfect opportunity’ and went with it?  *GB

starts talking about the illuminati being shape shifting lizard people, well that’s where he loses me.  How do you know about his credibility regarding other things.?

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JBI

I believe that is a possibility - just have to wait and see if in fact that is the way it plays out.

are we solving when speaking of Zionists and the like? The ME has been a mess for thousands of years, no?

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13511009/Rik-Clay-on-2012—ZION-and–the-2012-Olympics

PS.  Rik Clay, only in his 20’s, was “suicided” shortly after writing this….. 

Much of the conversation here on the tent is about the illegalities of the Federal Reserve and market manipulations, I would be concerned about the management and influence by any group if they are not represenative of the people they are supposed to represent. Jews as a people and their activity rather than their religion seems a legitimate avenue to pursue when I’m being robbed by the Feds.

You cannot separate Zionism from the religion. Zion is mentioned many times in the Bible. A return to Zion is hoped for. As Israeli said, how did the original Zionists get this idea? Your request is like asking for Pentecostal to be seaparated from Christianity.

 http://www.321gold.com/editorials/denninger/denninger010610.html

Dutch Finance Minister Wouter Bos would not be drawn into speculation on steps against Iceland. “But this can’t go on forever. We want our money back. We negotiated reasonably.”

Mr. Bos, go perform an indecent act on yourself.

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Myners (the British Financial Services Minister) told the BBC that if Iceland voted against the deal, it would cut itself off from the global financial system and from International Monetary Fund aid for its economy, one of the worst hit by the world bank crisis.

‘The Icelandic people, if they were to reach that conclusion, would effectively be saying that Iceland does not want to be part of the international financial system, that Iceland doesn’t want to have access to multi-national, national and bilateral funding and doesn’t want to be regarded as a safe counter-party with whom to do business,’ Myners said.

Mr. Myners, with all due respect (that is, none), may you be fornicated by a stallion.

…for Me..the Definition of the NWO is …a Group of Powerful and Influential people who wish to Control the World….and the Definition of Zionists is a Group of People who wish to See Jews in Zion (Israel)….

Too Simplistic ?

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Zionists is a word used frequently today as a code word for Jews. It has nothing to do with the historical zionists, but with the way some people obliquely refer to the Jews. Who are these zionists anyway? All the Jews in Israel? A group that came there at some defined period? People who love Israel and visit from time to time? The word, as it is used by many nowadays, reeks with deception. Like David Icke’s zionist illuminati. You and I know very well that he means something other than zionist in this context.

I’ll again make the request that people keep religion out of the discussion.  I know it is difficult for some, but if you can’t then please don’t bother posting.  Sorry, but this is not about Jews, as much as some of you want it to be.  *GB

“Zionists (code word for Jews)”

Read your history man.

Six retired Jewish Floridian fellows were playing poker in the condo clubhouse when Meyer loses $500 on a single hand, clutches his chest and drops dead at the table.

“I’ll go tell him.” says Goldberg.

Goldballoon, I don’t think there is any taboo about talking about your subject on the tent, but I do wonder why you are so interested in the connection between the Zionists (code word for Jews) and the NWO. Why don’t we ever hear about the connection between the Protestants, the Anglicans, the Buddhists and the NWO. Why does David Icke mention the zionist illuminati and not the Lutheran illuminati or the Hindu illuminati? You see what makes us wary and weary? Hitler had his Protocol of Zion myth and we know where that led.

The Jews are now in Israel, NWO or not, and the prophesy says that they will never be uprooted again. I am sure this must gall a person like David Icke. Let him argue his case, if he dares, with the supreme authority, and I am not talking about Obama or Rothchild and I am not talking about the illuminati or the Fed. And I dare say the most horrible scenario that a person like David Icke and his kind can imagine is a peaceful Middle East, with Israel and the Jews intact. This will happen one day, and what a beautiful and prosperous part of the world it will be.

in a trenchcoat while refusing to be irratiated by thier ‘nakid’ machine. hows dat? wj