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Good Question…I dont know…probably because of Melting Temperature for casting or Hardness and strength issues

Gold crowns are actually 40 to 60% Gold mixed with other alloys…and of course we mix silver with copper and zinc and Ugh Mercury to make amalgam fillings….
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For Sure Gold Crowns are all but invincable…I see them last 50 ..60 years…in a harsh enviornment….with acid… and temperature changes of 100 Degrees in short periods and Powerful Compressive and Tensile Forces from all angles…they still look brand new…

I like to tell the oldtimers they should have their crowns extracted and sell em to 1800GOLD….They have had them since Gold was 35 Bucks….been a good Investment …Hehe

Flintstoners

We have had a great breakthrough in our battle…..will discuss in a note to all in am….keep the prayers coming….

Ah, Fully, indeed.

Confession is good for the soul    :-)

FGC, why not silver for a crown?


Hey Its too Quiet here Tonite…lets start a fight

…Inflation you moron….

….Deflation you Idiot…

….@#&*******()!!

ipso, 13:49

Pre 83 pennies now over .02 copper value. I’m sure Ca can accomplish an equally stellar ratio in steel money if they set their mind to it. plastic+nwo perhaps I was stretching it a bit- thanks for bein nice (grin)

OhBama !

seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/33010

New Poll..How Bad will It Get ?

….vote vote vote…

Freestate…I hear you…and maybe thats the saddest thing about this whole Mess

………These friggen Bullies can loot the whole damn Country with their BS Monetary System …no the whole damn World…and destroy the hopes and dreams of an entire generation…and we have to be afraid to say what we think because Big Brother is watching and taking names….Well Up Yours Big Brother…..!

FGC- If I wasn’t afraid of getting on some kind of …

Gov. “list”, I’d tell ya what I really think! Hang Em High, Baby!

Freestate…Absolutely agree

….Patience is for sissies…..hang the bastages

FGC- I admire GATA for their patience…

and maturity regarding the CFTC. These Government jerk offs should be shot for their ongoing collusion with, and protection of the Criminals that run and control the US commodities market. Ted Butler has put his faith in the current criminal-in-charge but I require some real action before I believe him. The rest of the world should know that American markets are totally controlled by organized criminals!

Interesting Video Free- Range Serfdom

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/065949-2010-03-08-freerange-serfdom-great-video.htm

GATAs Case in a Nutshell

GATA appeals to CFTC to act against manipulative shorts

Submitted by cpowell on 12:56PM ET Monday, March 8, 2010. Section: Daily Dispatches

3:55p ET Monday, March 8, 2010

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

GATA today delivered to the chairman of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, Gary Gensler, a letter from GATA Chairman Bill Murphy, appealing to the CFTC to act against the concentrated and manipulative short positions in the precious metals markets. The commission is expected to hold a hearing this month on establishing position limits in those markets. Murphy’s letter is appended.

CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

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March 8, 2010

Gary Gensler, Chairman
U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission
3 Lafayette Centre
1155 21st St. NW
Washington, DC 20581

Dear Chairman Gensler:

The Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee (GATA) was formed in January 1999 to expose and oppose the manipulation and suppression of the price of gold. What we have learned over the past 11 years is of great importance in regard to the CFTC.s forthcoming hearings regarding position limits in the precious metals futures markets. Our efforts to expose manipulation in the gold market parallel those of Harry Markopolos to expose the Madoff Ponzi scheme to the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Initially we thought that the manipulation of the gold market was undertaken as a coordinated profit scheme by certain bullion banks, like JPMorgan, Chase Bank, and Goldman Sachs, and that it violated federal and state anti-trust laws. But we soon discerned that the bullion banks were working closely with the U.S. Treasury Department and Federal Reserve in a gold cartel, part of a broad scheme of manipulation of the currency, precious metals, and bond markets.

As an executive at Goldman Sachs in London, Robert Rubin developed an idea to borrow gold from central banks at minimal interest rates (around 1 percent), sell the bullion for cash, and use the cash to fund Goldman Sachs’ operations. Rubin was confident that central banks would control the gold price with ever-more leasing or outright sales of their gold reserves and that consequently the borrowed gold could be bought back without difficulty. This was the beginning of the gold carry trade.

When Rubin became U.S. treasury secretary, he made it government policy to surreptitiously operate an identical gold carry trade but on a much larger scale. This became the principal mechanism of what was called the “strong-dollar policy.” Subsequent treasury secretaries have repeated a commitment to a “strong dollar,” suggesting that they were continuing to feed official gold into the market more or less clandestinely to support the dollar and suppress interest rates and precious metals prices.

Lawrence Summers, who followed Rubin as treasury secretary, was an expert in gold’s influence on financial markets. Previously, as a professor at Harvard University, Summers co-authored an academic study titled “Gibson’s Paradox and the Gold Standard,” (see Footnote 1 below) which concluded that in a free market gold prices move inversely to real interest rates, and, conversely, if gold prices are “fixed,” then interest rates can be maintained at lower levels than would be the case in a free market. This was the economic theory behind the “strong dollar policy.”

Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan understood Summers’ research when he remarked at a 1993 meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee:

“I was raising the question on the side with Governor Mullins of what would happen if the Treasury sold a little gold in this market. There’s an interesting question here because if the gold price broke in that context, the thermometer would not be just a measuring tool. It would basically affect the underlying psychology.” (See Footnote 2 below.)

GATA has collected reams of evidence that Western central bank gold has long been mobilized and surreptitiously dishoarded to rig the gold market and influence related markets and that this rigging has drawn upon the U.S. gold reserves.

President Obama has called for greater transparency in both the federal government and the financial markets. In pursuit of such transparency GATA has made Freedom of Information Act requests to the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department for a candid accounting of their involvement in the gold market, particularly in regard to gold swaps. In a reply to GATA’s lawyers dated September 17, 2009, Fed Governor Kevin M. Warsh acknowledged that the Federal Reserve has gold swap agreements with foreign banks but insisted that such documents remain secret. (See Footnote 3 below.)

As a result, last December GATA sued the Federal Reserve in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, seeking access to the Federal Reserve’s withheld records of gold swaps.

Understanding that the manipulation of the price of gold is profoundly important to all markets and the American public, on January 31, 2008, GATA placed a full-page color advertisement in The Wall Street Journal at a cost of $264,000. (See Footnote 4 below.) GATA’s ad warned, “This manipulation has been a primary cause of the catastrophic excesses in the markets that now threaten the whole world.” What GATA warned against has come to pass.

GATA has long implicated the New York Commodities Exchange (Comex) as being a mechanism by which gold and silver price suppression is implemented. The smoking gun is the excessive concentration of bullion bank positions in the gold and silver futures markets. This concentration enables market manipulation — just as market concentration was the justification offered by the CFTC in 1980 when it acted against the Hunt Brothers in the silver market.

The weekly commitment of traders report documents the total net short position of commercial traders in the commodity markets. The monthly bank participation reports disclose the holdings of U.S. banks in various markets. In a letter to GATA dated February 19, 2009, Laura Gardy, a CFTC legal assistant, wrote, “The commission determined that where the number of banks in each reporting category is particularly small, fewer than four banks, there exists the potential to extrapolate both the identity of individual banks and the banks’ positions. As a result, as of December 2009 the CFTC no longer names the number of banks when it is less than four.”

The CFTC has been investigating possible manipulation of the silver market for more than a year, so this reporting change is disturbing to us, as it reduces transparency and the ability to uncover market manipulation.

The CFTC’s own reports of November 2009 show that just two U.S. banks held 43 percent of the commercial net short position in gold and 68 percent of the commercial net short position in silver. In gold, these two banks were short 123,331 contracts but long only 523 contracts, and in silver they were short 41,318 contracts and long only 1,426 contracts. How improbable is it that these two banks attract most of the investors who want only to sell short? (See Footnote 5 below.)

It has been possible to extrapolate that the two banks that hold these large manipulative short positions on the Comex are JPMorgan Chase and HSBC because of their huge positions in the OTC derivatives market, whose regulator, the U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, does not provide anonymity when it publishes market data. 6 In the first quarter 2009 OCC derivatives report, JPMorgan Chase and HSBC held more than 95 percent of the gold and precious metals derivatives of all U.S. banks, with a combined notional value of $120 billion. This concentration dwarfs the concentration in the gold and silver futures markets and should raise great concern about the lack of position limits on the Comex.

It is also disturbing to us that HSBC is the custodian for the major gold exchange-traded fund, GLD, and that JPMorgan Chase is the custodian for the major silver exchange-traded fund, SLV. It is a significant material omission to fail to disclose to GLD and SLV investors that the custodian banks of the two exchange-traded funds have an interest in falling prices in the futures and derivatives markets.

Detailed daily monitoring of gold trading reveals these patterns:

1. In recent years gold price suppression has been apparent from the near-complete failure of the gold price to rise more than 2 percent per day on the Comex (what GATA calls the 2 Percent Rule) while there is no corresponding restriction on days when the gold price is falling.

2. At option expiry gold almost always falls to a point where a large number of call options have been written, nullifying the value of the options. Typically, the price rallies immediately after option expiration.

3. The gold price consistently falls at 3 a.m. New York time when the gold cartel’s traders report to work in London, and again following the PM gold price fix, when physical market pricing has concluded for the day, and in the access market following the Comex close.

No other market trades so repetitively.

GATA has evidence that there are enormous physical short positions in the gold and silver markets that cannot be covered. Because of the decades-long interference with the gold market, we estimate that the free-market price of gold is multiples of the current price. Growing stress caused by burgeoning physical bullion demand is threatening to lead to a price explosion, which will restore to the market the balance that regulation has failed to maintain. In our view, the Comex paper market will become dysfunctional, with “force majeure” having to be declared as the concentrated shorts are unable to deliver on their obligations.

We urge the CFTC to report fully and candidly on these markets and take appropriate action.

Sincerely,

WILLIAM J. MUPRHY III, Chairman
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

… Footnotes:

1. “Gibson’s Paradox Revisited: Professor Summers Analyzes Gold Prices” by Reginald H. Howe. www.goldensextant.com/

2. www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/FOMC19930518meeting.p

3. www.gata.org/files/GATAFedResponse-09-17-2009.pdf

4. www.gata.org/node/wallstreetjournal

5. www.cftc.gov/dea/bank/deanov09f.htm

6. www.gata.org/node/7307

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Computer needs to be rebotted at 6:15 EST

Should be momentary downtime…

1 to 2 minutes

COMPLETED!

Ororeef………Who cares “what they want?” Tell ‘em to eat cake.

U.S. credit default swaps currently trade in euros. After all, if the U.S. defaults, who will want payment in devalued U.S. dollars? The euro recently weakened relative to the dollar, and market participants are calling for contracts that require payment in gold. If they get their way, speculators on the winning side of a price move will demand collateral paid in gold.

Mineweb - 8 Mar 2010

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Rick Ackerman - 8 Mar 2010

Monday, March 8th, 2010

 

Why Deflation Makes T-Bonds a Good Bet

(Editor’s Note: When we last featured the thoughts of Doug Behnfield, senior vice-president at UBS in Boulder, he had sketched out some back-of-the-napkin numbers that showed why most Baby Boomers were unlikely to realize their retirement dream.  In the think-piece below, Doug argues that Treasury Bonds are now the place to be as deflation takes hold. The essay begins with a reference to an analysis done by his good friend and colleague, famed bear David Rosenberg of Guskin Sheff.)

In the discussion about the outlook for Treasury Bonds, you have made the point that supply alone has been an inadequate focus for predicting future prices/yields. Cited as examples are the rise in the 30-Year Treasury Bond yield from 4.7% to 6.7% in 1999, even though bond issuance by the Treasury was practically nil; and the decline in Japanese Government Bond yields over the last 20 years, even though deficit spending has been spectacular in Japan and debt/GDP is approaching 200%. The last I saw, the JGB (10-year) was at 1.3%.

Bet-size

The problem with trying to assess either supply or demand in the current market environment is that everything is so confusing here in the early stages of this new secular paradigm of a global credit collapse. There is no way to get it completely right, so as Lacy Hunt has always maintained, it makes much more sense to assess the outlook for inflation as the primary effort in predicting Treasury rates. Simple and elegant.

Awesome Debt Supply

Still, I have some thoughts on supply and demand. Everyone knows that we are facing awesome supply of Treasury debt.  The Congressional Budget Office has told us the deficit will be over $1 trillion a year, each year for as far as the eye can see, not to mention the $1 trillion plus of existing debt that has to roll over each year. Revenue projections are probably way low. Most observers expect a recession/recovery sequence similar to what always occurred when we were experiencing the secular credit expansion. It is easy to fall off the tax rolls in this country. It seems that the only people who pay taxes are those who make over $100,000. So supply is pretty well defined as enormous in most people’s minds.

How can we be bullish on bonds in light of those numbers? We can only be bullish if we have a very big view of demand. But demand analysis doesn’t offer the hard numbers that supply analysis does. Demand is a state of mind. It is dependent on how attractive the instrument (in this case, Treasury Bonds) is. And the attractiveness of the instrument is dependent on the perception of what is happening fundamentally in the economy and the markets. Bring out the Ouija Board! It has always been said that buying requires a lot more imagination than selling. But before throwing up our hands, and in recognition of the fact that we are required to have an opinion, let’s spend a little time enumerating what makes Treasury Bonds attractive. It’s a good place to start.

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Now that McEwen ’s got his Chief Financial officer

watching the Books at MNEAF ..things are a poppin !

Payable in Gold ?….go for it..lets see what happins when thay cant deliver !Maybe we’ll get a sequill to “The Merchant of Venice”

Huffington Post
Washington Must Ban U.S. Credit Derivatives as Traders Demand Gold
By Janet Tavakoli
March 8, 2010…Remember AIG? When prices moved against AIG on its credit default swap contracts, AIG owed cash (collateral) to its trading partners. AIG paid billions of dollars and owed billions more when U.S. taxpayers bailed it out in September 2008.

U.S. credit default swaps currently trade in euros. After all, if the U.S. defaults, who will want payment in devalued U.S. dollars? The euro recently weakened relative to the dollar, and market participants are calling for contracts that require payment in gold. If they get their way, speculators on the winning side of a price move will demand collateral paid in gold.

The market can create an unlimited number of these contracts very rapidly. The U.S. wouldn’t have to ever default to trigger a major disruption in the gold market. Spreads (or prices) on the credit default swaps could simply move based on “news,” and demand for gold would soar.

If this speculation drives up the price of gold, and the available gold supply becomes limited, are you willing to post your children as collateral? I am pushing the point so that we put a stop to this before it is too late.”

geotrader

I will have to look into to it but I believe Martin had a fundamental goodness that even if their was those with their own agenda  around him could not tempt. Until people get out of their own little world be black or white rich or  poor there will be no peace or in his quest equality.If you look at the recipe for the next extinction it kinds goes along with whats happening now. Greed, “killing off of animals for food”lack of concern for the community >environment around them. Introduction of too many species. Bla Bla have to run to work.

goldielocks

have followed your posts and you always make people think about things,, I am not one to kick a man that is not around to argue his case,,, but when you read all that Martin said and the people he surrounded himself with he was definitely in the left leanin camp,,,not doubting his intelligence,,, to his credit one of his Quotes that I like is  ” the ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.”

Geez Plastic Money ?

….what am I gonna use for toilet paper now ?

….Ouch !

John Embry: As Confidence Returns, Gold Will Rise

http://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/5783

Big day for little EXN (Excellon)

….up 16% on Huge Volume…no news